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Rick Fitzgibbons | Wednesday, 25 October 2006

Schools withhold sad facts about homosexual lifestyle

Teachers are being irresponsible when they teach that homosexuality is a healthy lifestyle.


When parents in the Philadelphia School District received an official calendar recently marking October as Gay and Lesbian History Month, they were confronted with a trend that is gathering momentum in many countries. In Victoria, Australia, family groups are up in arms over instructions to celebrate homosexuality in the classroom to counteract "homophobic bullying". Something similar is happening in England, where new sexual orientation laws may force primary school teachers to make books such as Hello Sailor and Daddy's Roommate available in class.
Challenges to these moves are occurring in forums ranging from school board meetings to the courts, but parents are losing ground. And yet, says a psychiatrist who specialises in this field, the health and even the lives of their children may be at stake. In this interview with MercatorNet, Richard P Fitzgibbons MD explains why -- and what can really help children vulnerable to same-sex attraction.
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MercatorNet: Any health intervention these days requires informed consent. Does this apply to the promotion of homosexuality in schools?
Rick Fitzgibbons:
It's a matter of great concern that educators are presenting homosexuality and same sex attraction to young people as a healthy lifestyle when the medical literature shows it is not. Numerous studies show an inability to maintain a commitment, rampant promiscuity and resultant serious depressive illness. In his book, The Sexual Organisation of the City, E. Laumann reported that among homosexuals in five urban areas the average length of a relationship was six months. M. Xiridou in 2003 reported that a long-term relationship among those he studied was 18 months, and overall they had an average of 18 to 26 partners per year. Consequently, due to AIDS and other diseases sexually active homosexual and bisexual males can lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

The inability to maintain commitment and promiscuity contribute to sadness, anger and mistrust leading to hopelessness and suicidal ideation. Many studies also demonstrate that these conflicts lead to a high prevalence of abuse in same sex relationships which is not communicated to students. In 1999 three very well-designed studies were published in the Archives of General Psychiatry -- one from New Zealand, one from the Netherlands and one on twins. These showed there is a much greater prevalence of psychiatric disorders among homosexual population -- more than six times the general risk of suicide among young adults.
Dr John Diggs has assembled overwhelming medical evidence on the serious health risks of the lifestyle in his article, "The Risks of Gay Sex". And yet young people are not being informed about this. They are being denied the truth. Instead, they are told being homosexual is as normal as the heterosexual lifestyle. It really seems that educators are teaching bad science and that political correctness is trumping science here.
Now, it's not clear whether teachers are bound by informed consent principles legally, but school psychologists certainly are. I would say the schools, particularly school psychologists, are very vulnerable to litigation if they don't inform young people, as well as principals and school superintendants, about the serious health risks associated with the homosexual lifestyle. Some people are working to warn national organisations of school psychologists of their liability if they fail to provide informed consent to students.
MercatorNet:
Are teachers the best group to be dealing with this subject?

Dr Fitzgibbons: Evidently not. Dr Charol Shakeshaft of Hofstra University, the leading expert on public school sexual misconduct in the United States, has testified that 7 per cent of students nationally report being victims of sexual abuse by an employee of a public school. In 1998 the US Department of Justice reported 103,000 credible cases of sexual abuse by public school employees against children. This is a higher rate than any other professional group, and much higher, by the way, than that of the Catholic clergy. So it should be of the greatest concern to parents, school boards, school superintendents and elected officials that this profession is the one leading the homosexual agenda against children. 

Again, if these educators knew the medical and psychological studies of the serious health risks associated with homosexuality one would hope that they would stop teaching that the lifestyle is equal with heterosexuality. My own view is that among educators much of the homosexual agenda is driven by a hostility towards Judaeo-Christian morality.  Many believe a similar dynamic of secular fundamentalism is present among health professionals, members of the media, as well as those in the legislative and judicial branches of government.   They may all be using this issue to attempt to undermine Judaeo-Christian morality in the culture and particularly among the young.
MercatorNet:
Is there a problem with a young person's identifying as gay or lesbian while still in high school? Can same-sex attraction be a phase or a fad at this age?

Dr Fitzgibbons:
Yes, there is a fair amount of research showing that same-sex attraction (SSA) is not something that is locked in at a certain stage, but it can be fluid and actually change over the course of a person's life. But young people are being told by educators, the media and health professionals that SSA is genetic so they will be that way for the rest of their lives. In fact, there is no proof that it's genetic. If it were, then all identical twins should be completely concordant for homosexuality, and no study has shown more than 50 per cent concordance. Last year the first genome scan of male sexual orientation was published in Human Genetics (No. 116) and the conclusion was there is no genetic basis.

The thing that troubles me greatly is that in asking young people to embrace a particular identity at an early age they're denying that child the right to self-knowledge. It's easier to think, "Oh, I have same sex attractions," rather than, "I was deeply lonely for a male friend when I was growing up," or, "I was too afraid to trust men, to trust my father."
Another issue is the danger of entering a relationship where you use another human being as a sexual object. A utilitarian sexual philosophy permeates the homosexual lifestyle, as evidenced by numerous studies which document a high level of promiscuity, and it can be very traumatic for a young person to be repeatedly used sexually by another person. Ultimately this trauma can lead to severe depressive illness and even suicidal ideation and excessive anger with abuse of others in the lifestyle.

MercatorNet: One reads various claims about the prevalence of homosexuality in the population. A Philadelphia group said 5 to 6 per cent. What does the research show?

Dr Fitzgibbons: Numerous international studies put it at 1-3 per cent. In a study of 5,898 adults in the Netherlands by T. Sandfort only 2.1 identified themselves as homosexual. Among 15,705 adults with a median age of 35, B. Cochran found less than one per cent were homosexual: 0.99 per cent of males and 0.75 of females.

MercatorNet:
What factors prepare the ground for same sex attraction in an adolescent?

Dr Fitzgibbons:
There are a number -- weak confidence in one's masculinity, poor body image, being sexually abused, father conflicts, mother conflicts… Many people with SSA report significant same sex  peer rejection. The major issue we've found among adolescent males is a terrible loneliness because of lack of male friendships, and this may sound strange, but it's usually because of a lack of eye-hand co-ordination. It's referred to as the sports wound. If a little boy by age 3 or 4 doesn't have eye-hand co-ordination, by age 7 most of his friends are females; he doesn't feel confident to enter into the male world and fears being rejected. And then by age 10 or 12 they begin to be attracted to males who have the body and the physical abilities they so desperately want.


As an aside, my personal belief is that there may be a series of genes that influence eye-hand co-ordination, because there are some males who really try to learn it and they just can't seem to develop it.
At national meetings of Courage or PFOX (Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays) where there are several hundred men (and some women) who are struggling with same sex attractions, I've asked how many played sports as boys. In some cases no more than five men in the audience raised their hands.
A father conflict may develop here. If a boy is not good at sports, many fathers simply don't know how to bond with the boy. So we coach fathers to do other things with their son -- go fishing, spend time doing the things he enjoys, always affirming his masculinity and getting him to realise that his masculinity is not determined by his body or by sports ability but by virtue -- courage, wanting to protect others and so on.
It's wonderful when fathers can really bond with these boys. Every male is looking for his father's approval, and if the father lacked this from his own father then he has to transcend that somehow. If he has faith he can ask the Lord to make him more giving and affirming than his father was.
MercatorNet:
What about girls?

Dr Fitzgibbons:
With females it's usually different. The most common cause of SSA in females, we find, is a mistrust of male love. Their fathers may have been overly angry, alcoholics, left their mothers, were narcissistic -- and they've becomeafraid of male love. Some women with SSA report the absence of a close mother relationship. There's also more fluidity between homosexual and heterosexual relationships with the women, because there is a significant amount of abuse among female SSA relationships -- emotional abuse, physical abuse -- and they find they feel safer with the men. And it's is easier for a woman to move out, whereas for men it has a lot more to do with their masculine identity.

In addition to all of that, there is the issue of gender identity disorder in children. I'm referring, mainly, to little boys who act feminine. In our practice we find that when fathers get very involved in the lives of these boys, teaching them how to kick a soccer ball at an early age -- 4 or 5 -- these children over the course of a year or two can change remarkably. They begin to feel comfortable with their masculinity, confident to fit in with other boys, and in many cases their effeminate mannerisms resolve. Not surprisingly, political correctness is leading many mental health professsionals to try to remove the GID diagnosis from the diagnostic manual (DSM IV R) in spite of the serious suffering in these children and good prognosis with effective treatment.
MercatorNet:
Even in adult life can one's sexual attraction can be changed successfully?

Dr Fitzgibbons:
Yes it can. The major evidence here is Robert Spitzer's study published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviour, October 2004. This is very significant because Spitzer led the taskforce which removed homosexuality from the diagnostic manual of psychiatry in 1973. Thirty years later he was going to a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington where there was an attempt to pass a resolution that no one should be allowed to treat patients with unwanted SSA. Outside there were people who had overcome their same sex attractions who were picketing and he walked over and talked to them. They said, "Study us." Spitzer, a professor at Columbia University, said, "All right, I'll study you." Among 200 men and women out of the lifestyle at least five years, he found 61 per cent of the males and 44 per cent of the females met criteria for good heterosexual functioning. His conclusion was that people have the right to pursue their heterosexual potential.

My own clinical experience is this. If there's significant self-knowledge, forgiveness of offenders in one's life and a spiritual component to the treatment, as there is in the treatment of compulsive behaviours in substance abuse disorders -- in Alcoholics Anonymous, for example -- we find the emotional pain that causes the SSA can be healed. A person thinks he is powerless over his emotional pain and compulsive behaviours, turns them over to God and begins to practice meditation -- which is also used now in the treatment of hypertension and coronary artery disease -- for 15 minutes twice daily, with the help of a spiritual director.
It's a process in which the adolescent or college student works at understanding those who have hurt or rejected him, and works at forgiving them. Then, as well, if they can grow in the sense that God is a loving Father and Christ is their friend and brother, the inner emptiness can be filled, the loneliness healed and the confidence strengthened. No longer does the person feel angry with his father or peers for not building or for damaging male confidence.  Instead, he appreciates that his male gifts and identity are special, God-given and  meant for a particular mission in life.

Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons is a psychiatrist and Director of Comprehensive Counselling Services in W. Conshohocken, Pennsylvania and was a major contributor to Homosexuality and Hope, published by the Catholic Medical Association of the United States.
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Koko said... -- | Thu, 28 Aug 2008 at 1:01 am

Explanatory text for MarkF’s claims, directly quoted from the US Department of Justice’s Report on the Extent, Nature, and
Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence (PDF link provided):

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At first glance, these findings suggest that both male and female same-sex couples experience more intimate partner violence than do opposite-sex couples. However, a comparison of intimate partner victimization rates among same-sex and opposite-sex cohabitants by perpetrator gender produced some interesting findings: 30.4 percent of same-sex cohabiting women reported being victimized by a male partner, whereas 11.4 percent reported being victimized by a female partner.

Thus, same-sex cohabiting women were nearly three times more likely to report being victimized by a male partner than by a female partner. Moreover, opposite-sex cohabiting women were nearly twice as likely to report being victimized by a male partner than were same-sex cohabiting women by a female partner (20.3 percent and 11.4 percent) (exhibit 9).

Somewhat different patterns were found for men. Like their female counterparts, same-sex cohabiting men were more likely to report being victimized by a male partner than by a female
partner. Specifically, 15.4 percent of same-sex cohabiting men reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked by a male partner, but 10.8 percent reported such violence by a female partner. However, same-sex cohabiting men
were nearly twice as likely to report being victimized by a male partner than were opposite-sex cohabiting men by a female partner (15.4 percent and 7.7 percent). These findings suggest that intimate partner violence is perpetrated primarily by men, whether against male or female
partners.
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Thank you for your time. Sincerely,
- Koko


Koko said... -- | Thu, 28 Aug 2008 at 12:53 am

...Done?

Great.

Allow me to count all the ways in which you are wrong, intentionally or unintentionally…

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They said, “Research on violence in same-sex relationships has been limited to studies of small, unrepresentative samples of gay and lesbian couples.”
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“has”. That’s past tense. As in, “-has- been limited to studies...”, which would mean ‘prior to -this- report’, for which real research was, in fact, done.

Additionally, they do say that homosexual partnerships have about equal partnership violence rates; gays are -more- violent, and lesbians are -less- violent. So it evens out.

Allow me to literally -quote- from my cited source…

“These findings suggest
that lesbian couples experience less intimate
partner violence than do heterosexual
couples; however, more research is needed
to support or refute this conclusion.”

So for -now-, the verdict of the US Department of Justice is that lesbian relationships are less violent, pending damning proof by another scientific body. If you can find said damning proof, by all means present it.

And… your ‘data’ that you allegedly took from my source? If you take a close look at your claims… it appears that you’re purporting that violence in heterosexual relationships is perpetrated primarily by women, not men; you claim that 4.4% of women were raped in heterosexual relationships, and then go on to say that 7.1% of men were raped by their female partner. With 98% of all rape committed by males, I find that difficult to swallow.

(Source: click my name.)

So… while the numbers you claim are indeed -present- in my source, they certainly do -not- support your claims in any way. If I am allowed to double-post, I’ll post the appropriate explanatory text following this.

I am not the way I am because of ‘problems’; as a matter of fact, I consider myself blessed every day.

So I say again, in defense of the lesbian community…
Speak for yourself.

Sincerely,
- Koko


MarkF said... -- | Wed, 27 Aug 2008 at 10:55 am

Koko

I looked at that DOJ study you linked to and it doesn’t say what you said.  They said, “Research on violence in same-sex relationships has been limited to studies of small, unrepresentative samples of gay and lesbian couples.” Even though they admitted that their study was small and unrepresentative, they then went on to say, “Results
from these studies suggest that same-sex couples are about as violent as heterosexual couples.” Well, they can’t have it both ways.  Either the data is unrepresentative or it isn’t.  I get the feeling that what the Clinton DOJ was doing here was more politics then science.  That is further borne out because they numbers they cite, even though small and unrepresentative don’t sustain the conclusion they come to either.  Their own numbers say that 11.4% of women were raped by their lesbian partner, while only 4.4% in heterosexual relationships.  The overall rate of victimization was 39.2% of lesbian couples compared with 21.7% in heterosexual couples.  The same pattern held up with men in same sex relationships, with 23.1$ victimized by their gay partner, while only 7.4% victimized by their female partner.  So while the data is small and unrepresentative, the numbers point to a much higher amount of abuse in the lesbian and gay community. 

There’s a lot more information available out there about the mental health problems in the “gay” community - http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/schools_withhold_sad_facts_about_homosexual_lifestyle/P15/

My experiences with the lesbian community is not all that great, but it is still in keeping with my experience with the “gay” community, and that is that it’s an unhealthy life style based on emotional problems in childhood.

Your comments about toleration are well founded.  Homosexuality is a sin, just the same as adultery is a sin.  That is overlooked a lot.  But as a Christian I can’t support public policy that seeks to make an unhealthy life style the norm for society


Koko said... -- | Tue, 26 Aug 2008 at 11:18 pm

MarkF,

I feel obligated to offer the following piece of advice:

Speak for yourself.

I’ve never been and never aim to be an expert on what goes on in the male homosexual community; while my few gay friends live their lives in a way that doesn’t seem much like what you’re saying, I haven’t been to the inner city gay community in my life, although it seems as though the behavior your describing could in fact be consistent with -anyone- from a bad neighborhood. Perhaps it’s not that the gay community itself is intrinsically flawed, much like the way the African-American community isn’t.

But all of that seems secondary in importance when you realize…

“Where do lesbians, at least half of the homosexual community, fit into what you’ve just said?”

Well… you didn’t say a -single thing- about us.

Were we overlooked, or could it be that you don’t know about lesbians as much as I don’t know about gays?

While lesbian culture isn’t quite paradise, I feel comfortable saying it’s not the hellhole you’ve described the gay culture as being. Drug use is, to my knowledge, no more prevalent compared to heterosexuals, and promiscuity and partner violence are in fact less frequent among lesbians than among heterosexuals.

(Cited source; click my name for the PDF file, published by the US. Department of Justice.)

I hope you can overlook your personal state of disillusionment with the gay community to see the love and humanity that exists within much of the homosexual community, if not within your particular community.

Sincerely,
- Koko


MarkF said... United States | Fri, 25 Jul 2008 at 1:48 pm

All,

Everything this article says is true.  I grew up like that and I ended up same-sex attraction.  I came out at age 16 and was the most open and pro-gay person imaginable.  I was a gay activist in college.  I was on TV, radio and in newspapers. 

But all the while I knew that something was serious amiss in the “gay” world. It just wasn’t what I thought it would be.  What I saw was drugs, depression, mental illness, instability, whiny political correctness, promiscuity, shallowness.  Most “gay” men acted worse than the stereotypes that they complain so loudly about.  But I chalked all of this up to society’s repression and maintained the myth that somewhere out there was a place where “gay” men weren’t such failures and head cases.  But I never found it, neither in the bars, nor in groups, nor among friends, nor on the net.

The real harm is done when young people swallow the myth of the “happy homosexual.” On our own, we are our biggest enemies.  “Gay” life is anything but.

In the last year or so, I’ve come to the same conclusion on my own that this article says.  Same-sex attraction is caused by trauma and bad experiences in childhood.  I’ve never met a single “gay” man who had a normal childhood.  In a public place like this few will admit that.  Many are too involved in the “gay” life to depart from its orthodoxies, the main one being that “we’re just like everyone else.” So when someone comes on here and says they had a normal childhood, I have to say that I just don’t believe it.  I have a good friend who used to tell me that he had a perfect childhood.  Then I found out later that his mother killed herself when he was 19.  He also described her as being a “nazi” with him as a kid. 

The fact is that as men with same-sex attraction, we all crave acceptance and love from a strong, real man.  We all long for acceptance from other strong and real men.  We’ve just eroticized it.  This is the cause of it, not biology.


Mark Pollock said... United States | Fri, 18 Jul 2008 at 1:41 am

When we react to a position that we disagree with terms like “highly biased”, “homophobic”, “ignorant” and “agenda-driven propaganda” we are doing the very same thing that we are saying that we are opposed to. When will we be unthreatened by people who see things differently than us? These terms are the same as calling an African American a “NIGGER” (a term that infers ignorance and degradation).

I admit that there are a lot of people who take the more conservative position on some of these things who come across in a rude manner. Is there not the same kind of prejudice from this opposite position? Yes. If your position is right you do not need to be threatened by another person’s view point. If what you say is true it will win out and you will also leave yourself less defensive to learning something new.


Lakshmi said... -- | Fri, 11 Jul 2008 at 4:58 am

A probaganda should be taken to destroy the worst culture like this.
Thank you


ryan said... United States | Fri, 14 Mar 2008 at 8:25 pm

Regarding the section talking about “sports wound”: is it safe to say that women are attracted to men because THEY have poor hand eye cordination?  Or is it also safe to say that all gay men have poor hand eye cordination?  There are some athletes that are gay, how did they become so if sports came natural to them?  On the other hand, do less attractive women become lesbian because they long for the perfect feminine body as a child?  I thought we were suppose to be taught that that leads to eating disorders. 
This research, though credible, is highly biased and construed mixing misconceptions with half trues and using it as a weapon against the idea that homosexuals may indeed be normal.  If there were psychological milestones that steered a person toward SSA then the issue could be easily fixed with counseling.  Unfortuantely, studies will also show that when this is attempted the results usualy are accompanied with severe depression and anxiety.  Maybe this is where the mental disorders come from.  Not from being homosexual, but by trying to fit into a society that deems the very core of there desires unacceptable. 
There are however some heterosexual men that encounter SSA in there lives, and through self analysis and treatment are able to shed light on the fantasies and confusion.  These men, however, strongly identify themselves honestly as heterosexuals and are masculine succesful mentaly stable men.  It is just a matter of solving early childhood issues.  If this website conducts or pulls more research, perhaps the researchers should remove the chip on their shoulder and understand fairly what it is they are dealing with.


Logan said... Canada | Sun, 10 Feb 2008 at 11:11 am

I just noticed the grammatical as well as spelling errors in my previous post. Sorry, I was working on a Sociology essay at the same time, and I was rather distracted! =D


Ken said... Australia | Thu, 7 Feb 2008 at 9:57 am

In the state of Michigan 57% of HIV/AIDS victims are black MSM (men who have sex with men) and 39% of victims are white MSM (National Conference on LGBT Equality: Creating Change program). This means that (if lesbian activist Renee McCoy, Director of the Detroit Department of Health and Wellness Promotion has got her figures right) 96% of HIV/AIDS victims in Michigan are MSM.
Just remember, folks: “AIDS Can Affect Anyone”.
In the whole of the United States the prevalence of HIV in MSM is sixty times higher than the general population (USFDA website).
A recent study has shown that MSM have a thirteen to fourteen fold greater risk of becoming infected with MRSA than the general population (Annals of Internal Medicine).
The list of diseases to which MSM are more susceptible goes on ad nauseam.
As a matter of public policy, for health reasons alone, homosexual behaviour should be actively discouraged.
All members of the public, especially the young, should be warned of the dangers associated with same-sex sexual behaviour, particularly male to male and more particularly anal intercourse.
Not to do so is an irresponsible abdication of society’s duty to protect the welfare of the young and vulnerable who are reliant on accurate information to make informed decisions regarding their personal welfare.
It is an outrage that young people are being deliberately denied relevant knowledge thus increasing their potential exposure to the above risks.
Shame on the gay lobby and shame on the rest of us for ceding to them the power to use misinformation, propaganda and half-truths to risk the health of our children.


Logan said... Canada | Sat, 12 Jan 2008 at 12:42 pm

Ok, I have to say that I am mildly appalled by some of the obviously twisted ‘facts’ that Dr. Fitzgibbons is broadcasting. As was said, it is easy to look at one group with disdain while averting one’s eyes from those like themselves with the same traits and moralistic standpoints. In the same area, did he bother to research how long a relationship in *general* tend to last, be it homo or hetero? Somehow I doubt that, as it will undoubtedly discredit his ‘work’.

Carrie, as I understand what it is you are trying to say, but not even *touching* on a subject leaves the risk of ignorance towards it, leading to homophobia or other such things. I believe having the information available is extremely important for children who may one day experience the conflicting emotions themselves, or for those with same-sex parents.

It seems to me that people *need* everything to be either black or white, however, there is always something that falls outside of those lines. i.e. love and attraction. Perhaps those who are cured truly are just that. ‘Cured.’However, is there not a slight chance that they are bisexual, ignoring that part of themselves?
I am a lesbian, 20 years old, and I couldn’t be happier. I’m not depressed, anxious, wishing I were straight. I never went looking on drug store shelves for a magic ‘straight pill’, if you will allow me my exaggeration.
Being gay, for some, is just like being tall or short, fat or thin. It is as much a part as them as being straightis for another individual.
Live and let live. Reach for equality. When one reads a child Cinderlla, the next story should be King&King;. Make it a norm, and those who fall in the category of homosexual won’t need the closet at all.


That Lesbian Down The Street said... -- | Mon, 24 Dec 2007 at 9:04 pm

Wow^^ I managed to miss this article for the longest time. But, actually… it seems Anonymous has most of what I would normally say covered^^;

So… I guess that leaves me to say that I’m also agreeing with Australia, mate ~_^

But I do feel obligated to address another little something^^

Carrie^^

I won’t go so far as ‘promoting’ homosexuality per say, but it should certainly be respected and treated as equal; especially in ‘teh schools’.
Oh, and I checked out your posted website… I can honestly say I feel genuinely sorry for every person who ‘gave testimony’, because it seems that their ‘coming out’ experience horribly tainted by trying to ‘fix’ them, and there seems to be no-one willing to explain to them what the word “bisexual” means.
I hope you find your own true SO, be it straight, gay, or bisexual; but please refrain from suggesting a ‘cure’ to perfectly fine homosexuals.

Have a nice day, all^^


Carrie said... United States | Sat, 22 Dec 2007 at 5:29 pm

Thank you,

As a teacher in Florida I am very well aware of the gay lobbies push for promoting homosexuality in teh schools! As teachers we need to show that there is freedom from homosexuality. I was a lesbian for over 20 years and am now free.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaydiscussionboard/


Keith said... Ireland | Sun, 7 Oct 2007 at 10:52 pm

I’ve been faithful to my same sex partner for almost eight years now. I live in Dublin city.

As a closeted youth my first same sex partner and first love hung himself because he could not come to terms with homophobes negative percepttions and opinions of him.

Live your own life and let us live ours.


Anonymous said... United States | Wed, 8 Aug 2007 at 1:36 am

Can’t seem to keep your prejudice on a leash, can you, Rick?
I found a very fascinating excerpt in your interview:

“I’m referring, mainly, to little boys who act feminine. In our practice we find that when fathers get very involved in the lives of these boys, teaching them how to kick a soccer ball at an early age—4 or 5—these children over the course of a year or two can change remarkably.”

Hmm… I don’t suppose that you’re implying that, without a father to tell them to be masculine, little boys would just *naturally* grow up to be gay?

Oh, and here’s a tasty tidbit:

“Numerous studies show an inability to maintain a commitment, rampant promiscuity and resultant serious depressive illness. In his book, The Sexual Organisation of the City, E. Laumann reported that among homosexuals in five urban areas the average length of a relationship was six months.”

Fascinating. Now, go do research to find the average length of relationships of HETEROSEXUAL couples in those five urban areas. I can guarantee you that they’ll be similar, if not worse. Know why? Cities aren’t know for their huge moral base. Whores of all sexual orientations live in cities. The average length of relationships is GOING to be low. Maybe we should take a look at Las Vegas, see how long straight people stay together there. Oh, and then say “this is how long straight people stay together” and pass it off as legitimate research. Try again, Rick.

And! You have the gall to talk about self-hatred and depression as if Homosexuals are hard-wired to hate themselves! Well, check this out: there would be a lot less gays in therapy if there were a lot less ignorant gay-bashers to put them there.

Well, I’m going to side with the Land Down Under on this one. 


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