It’s nearly impossible to think that when former president Bill Clinton talked with CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta about the moral difference between using embryos for research that have even a remote possibility of being fertilized….and other embryos….he was just ignorant of the facts of human biology.

Like….an embryo only exists because of fertilization.

Clinton uses this language over and over, and Gupta does nothing to correct the terminology or the discussion. In fact, he seems to agree. And this, after he refers to Clinton as someone ‘who has studied this’, thus giving him deference on the topic. Gupta asks if this controversial issue will remain this divisive, and “be the abortion of the next generation?” (Revealing that he,  Dr. Gupta, is unaware or in denial of the fact that harvesting stem cells from embryos de facto destroys that human being’s developing life…)

Here’s Clinton’s response  (scroll way down in the transcript):

If it’s obvious that we’re not taking embryos that can — that under any conceivable scenario would be used for a process that would allow them to be fertilized and become little babies, and I think if it’s obvious that we’re not talking about some science fiction cloning of human beings, then I think the American people will support this.

Again, (this obviously requires repetition), embryos already are fertilized, and are already little (the smallest) human babies (though they don’t look like Gerber models yet). And by the way, Obama’s actions last week open the door to human cloning not for reproductive purposes, but for scientific research purposes. And we go over the cliff from there to other cloning. But that’s another discussion…

Back to Clinton’s response, especially after Gupta asks if he has “any reservations?”

I don’t know that I have any reservations, but I was — he has apparently decided to leave to the relevant professional committees the definition of which frozen embryos are basically going to be discarded, because they’re not going to be fertilized. I believe the American people believe it’s a pro-life decision to use an embryo that’s frozen and never going to be fertilized for embryonic stem cell research, especially since now, not withstanding some promising developments, most of the scientists in this field and the doctors will tell you they don’t know of any other source as good as embryonic stem cells for all the various things that need to be researched.

An absolutely stunning set of statements winding up in a complete untruth.

But there’s more…

But those committees need to be really careful to make sure if they don’t want a big storm to be stirred up here, that any of the embryos that are used clearly have been placed beyond the pale of being fertilized before their use. There are a large number of embryos that we know are never going to be fertilized, where the people who are in control of them have made that clear. The research ought to be confined to those.

Yes, he really said this. And no, Gupta didn’t do anything to clarify the biological and scientific facts.

But there are values involved that we all ought to feel free to discuss in all scientific research. And that is the one thing that I think these committees need to make it clear that they’re not going to fool with any embryos where there’s any possibility, even if it’s somewhat remote, that they could be fertilized and become human beings.

This glaring mis-statement and delusional thought process has grave consequences. Many women who go into abortion clinics out of desperation or under pressure do not realize that the baby - the unique, separate, individual human being she conceived - is already in her womb. Perhaps it’s even the majority who think that. They think (and often hear repeated by abortion clinic workers) that it’s a blob of tissue at that stage, and abortion will prevent that child from coming into existence. So they go ahead with it (which is why the abortion movement so fiercely resists ‘informed consent’ laws) and later suffer the horrible trauma of post-abortion syndrome when they come to learn or understand (which they usually do) that abortion took the life of their child.

And here are some of the highest members of government and media perpetuating the lies and myths and misinformation.

This needs attention. Far, wide and urgent. Thanks to alert citizens like you readers (like Chairm, who passed this along), we have the exponential power and influence of the grassroots and communications technology to get around the elite who are stuck in Wonderland. And help them find their way out, at the same time.